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21/11/2011 18:58:28 ‹Howard Andrew Jones› JC - Erik: I was really lucky at my university, more than 20 years back. My teachers were perfectly supportive of my genre fiction. But there are schools today, 20 years later, that look down their noses at it and insist you write stuff only set in the present day.
21/11/2011 18:58:29 ‹Justin Sluder› After all, Prince of Wolves has necrophilia.
21/11/2011 18:58:54 ‹Dave Gross› Justin Sluder: As does Twilight.
21/11/2011 18:58:56 ‹Russ› If Piers Anthony can get away with bestiality, why can't Paizo?
21/11/2011 18:59:00 ‹Erik Mona› I am hoping that modern fantasy works remove most of the Tolkienien perceptions, but I realize I am on the margins in that regard.
21/11/2011 18:59:02 ‹James Sutter› Exactly. And Worldwound has high priestess sexytimes (the technical term)
21/11/2011 18:59:11 ‹Erik Mona› Kevin: Emerson College in Boston.
21/11/2011 18:59:13 * Russ shudders as his hindbrain again recalls the terror of "In the Barn".
21/11/2011 18:59:14 ‹Richard Lee Byers› But in Twilight, it's consensual necrophilia, so everything's okay.
21/11/2011 18:59:26 ‹Dave Gross› Russ: You said the unspeakable title!
21/11/2011 18:59:31 ‹Justin Sluder› Dave Gross: I'm talking well written fiction.
21/11/2011 18:59:35 ‹Kevin Andrew Murphy› Dave Gross: Twilight, however, broke new ground with abstinence necrophilia.
21/11/2011 18:59:39 ‹Dave Gross› Richard Lee Byers: You haven't read Prince of Wolves, I take it.
21/11/2011 18:59:47 ‹Dave Gross› Kevin Andrew Murphy: Point.
21/11/2011 18:59:51 ‹Russ› Dave gross: Hot potato orchestra stalls Puck will make amends!
21/11/2011 18:59:53 ‹JC Hay› Bluntly, the necrophilia angle in twilight bothered me less than a 400 year old guy hanging out with high school girls
21/11/2011 18:59:55 ‹Gulo› .. the scary thing is I can think of at least two references to bestiality from Piers Anthony.
21/11/2011 19:00:02 ‹Erik Mona› Ironically, it's probably much better advice to help people write genre fiction, since the market for modern day slice of life shit is effectively ZERO.
21/11/2011 19:00:03 ‹Richard Lee Byers› I confess, Dave, that I have not as yet.
21/11/2011 19:00:10 ‹Russ› Gulo: Unicorn Point's another one
21/11/2011 19:00:23 ‹James Sutter› Yeah, at least genre has a community
21/11/2011 19:00:35 ‹Bill Ward› and an audience
21/11/2011 19:00:36 ‹Kevin Andrew Murphy› Gulo: Only two?
21/11/2011 19:00:37 ‹GameMaster's Kip› One of the things I've really enjoyed about Pathfinder is that you guys don't shy away from some of the more adult language and themes. And I don't mean it like, say, the new DC reboot that shoehorns in "mature" themes. But you use words like "beer"! And you acknowledge where half-orcs come from.
21/11/2011 19:00:40 ‹Dave Gross› James Sutter: That's a good point I don't hear often enough.
21/11/2011 19:00:44 * Ed Greenwood joins PFTales
21/11/2011 19:00:50 ‹Erik Mona› And a section at the bookstore.
21/11/2011 19:00:54 ‹James Sutter› And you know what? People may look down their noses at SF and tie-in fiction sometimes, but it gets read. And as a writer, isn't that what you want?
21/11/2011 19:01:00 * _NebulousMistress was consumed by the Chatbeast (NOM!)_
21/11/2011 19:01:00 ‹Dave Gross› The immortal Elminster arrives!
21/11/2011 19:01:00 ‹Richard Lee Byers› JC, I think we're on the same page. Can you think of a creepier, stupider way to spend your immortal existence than eternal high school?
21/11/2011 19:01:03 ‹GameMaster's Kip› Things that have been THERE the whole time, but somewhat danced around.
21/11/2011 19:01:07 ‹Justin Sluder› Ed!
21/11/2011 19:01:09 ‹Justin Sluder›
21/11/2011 19:01:11 ‹JC Hay› And the stinking Canadiens are going to be shut out by Boston. God is dead.
21/11/2011 19:01:11 ‹Dave Gross› ED GREENWOOD is a prolific author and game designer, creator of the Forgotten Realms setting and the iconic figure of Elminster the Sage. His web story is “Guns of Alkenstar.”
21/11/2011 19:01:13 ‹Pygon› greetings Mr. Greenwood
21/11/2011 19:01:13 ‹Wes Schneider› Dave Gross: I think we just found our link into the Twilight audience.
21/11/2011 19:01:14 ‹Russ› GameMaster's Kip: I won't be satisifed with Golarion half-orcs until I see the word "rapelings" in print, though.
21/11/2011 19:01:18 ‹Erik Mona› I want to write what I want to write, and if I can manage to get someone to pay me money I can turn into food, I consider it a win.
21/11/2011 19:01:21 ‹Enlight_bystand› night all
21/11/2011 19:01:22 ‹weirmonken› Dave Gross: I absolutely loved Zelazny's Amber. Easily my favorite fantasy series.
21/11/2011 19:01:24 ‹Dave Gross› Ed Greenwood, how is it different for you to write stories set in Golarion compared to writing in the Forgotten Realms setting, which grew up out of your home campaign?
21/11/2011 19:01:33 ‹Gulo› Well, there's how the centaurs came about and at least half of Pornucopia. If there's more, that's just .. hilarious.
21/11/2011 19:01:34 ‹Ed Greenwood› Hi! One immortal Elminster, plus my cat who's try to chew the Ethernet cable.
21/11/2011 19:01:34 ‹GameMaster's Kip› We can make the dream come true, Russ.
21/11/2011 19:01:38 ‹GameMaster's Kip› Tell me how I can help.
21/11/2011 19:01:40 ‹Erik Mona› All of the short stories about all of the stuff that happened to me as a kid wouldn't pay for a Quarter Pounder.
21/11/2011 19:01:50 ‹Dave Gross› weirmonken: One of my very favorites, too, although ASOIF is giving it a run for its money lately.
21/11/2011 19:01:51 ‹Russ› Fun fact: I just turned over a new material and didn't notice until 30 minutes before clicking "Submit" that I'd used Ed's last name for it
21/11/2011 19:02:11 * Enlight_bystand quit
21/11/2011 19:02:12 ‹Rathendar› hi mr. greenwood!
21/11/2011 19:02:14 ‹weirmonken› James Sutter: I agree re: Worldwound Gambit. In my mind, it has been the best of the PF Tales line so far, and there's been some other contributions that have been awesome.
21/11/2011 19:02:25 ‹James Sutter› Erik Mona: Money for food? I'm pretty sure that money all becomes Red Bull to keep you awake until 6am.
21/11/2011 19:02:30 ‹xellos› Ed Greenwood: One of mine tries to do that regularly.
21/11/2011 19:02:37 ‹GameMaster's Kip› Hi there Ed!
21/11/2011 19:02:50 ‹xellos› Erik Mona: Oh, you had to read "This Boy's Life" too? =P
19:02:59 ‹Dave Gross› James Sutter: I have a feeling that at the convention this weekend more people bought Pathfinder Tales novels than those of most any other non-gamey author in attendance.
21/11/2011 19:03:35 ‹Erik Mona› James: I do 5-Hour Energy, man. Red Bulls crash you out, amigo.
21/11/2011 19:03:49 * Tom Servo joins PFTales
21/11/2011 19:03:49 ‹Dave Gross› EVERYBODY: Don't forget to take a moment to post a review of your favorite web fiction stories. Lots of stars on one of those will encourage more people to discover those characters.
21/11/2011 19:03:50 ‹GameMaster's Kip› I used to have access to Jolt.
21/11/2011 19:03:53 ‹JC Hay› Erik and James: Yes to that - 5-hour all the way
21/11/2011 19:03:56 ‹Ed Greenwood› Well, Dave (ahem) when I write in the Realms I KNOW the world, I can mentally "see" it as I walk around it in my mind. Golarion, I need to sit down with that gorgeous Inner Sea World Guide and swot up on a land to anchor myself in it before I start writing. Otherwise, it's the same basic approach: pretend it's real as you write...
21/11/2011 19:03:57 ‹Erik Mona› Back in the day, ephedrine worked really well, but apparently it's bad for you? Who knew?
21/11/2011 19:03:57 ‹GameMaster's Kip› Now they done took my Jolt away. =(
21/11/2011 19:03:57 ‹James Sutter› I only drink energy drinks on the way to Burning Man
21/11/2011 19:04:14 ‹xellos› Dave Gross: Did you ever figure out who was behind the "sending the wrong book" conspiracy?
21/11/2011 19:04:22 ‹Ed Greenwood› Hi, everyone!
21/11/2011 19:04:23 ‹Erik Mona› And I tend to fall asleep around 4:30 on working nights. Almost never at 6:00.
21/11/2011 19:04:32 ‹Howard Andrew Jones› Ladies, gentlemen, I must log off. It was a pleasure chatting with you all.
21/11/2011 19:04:37 ‹Lady Elaine› Erik Mona: when you have a heart condition, you figure that out real fast (about ephedrine)
21/11/2011 19:04:37 ‹James Sutter› Unless I'm driving for more than 16 hours straight, I fear what that stuff may do to my brain... cold meds crack me out for days.
21/11/2011 19:04:45 ‹xellos› Howard Andrew Jones: Night, and thanks. ^^
21/11/2011 19:04:46 ‹Gulo› Goodnight Howard